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Hamden,CT,

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Oct 03, 2010

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Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

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NOTE TO DOUG

Short-Term Running Goals:

PR for All Race distances - simple enough - right?

Improve VDOT from 42 and get to 43 as proven by Race Result(s) or Time Trial(s).

Long-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for Boston Marathon

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10.27 Marathon Pace Miles

10.27 miles done at 12:13pm @ 8:33/mile in 1:27:29

Another Tempo Run.

The last five miles are within fifteen seconds of Tempo Pace I am striving for (7:48-8:09/mile).  Mile 6-10 has splits being 8:24/mile, 8:23/mile, 8:18 mile, 8:19/mile and 8:08 mile.

 

Split

Time

Distance

Elevation Gain

Elevation Loss

Avg Pace

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

8:57

1

0

74

8:58

2

8:50

1

0

3

8:50

3

8:52

1

17

0

8:52

4

8:44

1

10

31

8:44

5

8:37

1

9

0

8:37

6

8:24

1

0

8

8:24

7

8:23

1

18

11

8:23

8

8:18

1

11

17

8:18

9

8:19

1

0

0

8:19

10

8:08

1

7

11

8:08

11

2:26

0.29

10

0

8:27

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Summary

1:27:58

10.29

82

154

8:33

 

This ends Week Three of the First Four Week Cycle.

Four weeks planned with Mileage being 30-40 miles weekly.

Four Specific Types of Runs to be done weekly:

 

Tempo Run 7:58/mile (7:48-8:09/mile)

Cruise Intervals 3x1600 @ 7:43/mile with 2:00 Rest (7:38-7:48/mile)

10x100s at 6:20/mile with 1:00 Rest (6:00-6:39/mile)

Long Runs of 10 Miles (every other week Long Run with Marathon miles tail end)

WEEK 3 SUMMARY:

40.06 Miles done For Week 3. I amended the schedule a bit and hopefully did not compromise the plan.  I had not gotten the tempo runs to 7:48-8:09/mile or the cruise intervals to 7:38-7:48/mile during the first two weeks.   

At some point during week 3, I thought that if I were to put together, during Week 3, many Marathon Pace miles (8:35/mile) over long distances, this would help me to get the tempo portion miles and cruise interval miles done at established goal paces for Week 4. 

I thus ran 4 Tempo runs this week.  I ran a ten miler Saturday.  I ran a ten miler Sunday.  All five runs by their conclusion were done at 8:35/mile average (Marathon Pace) or better.

The thinking is this: If I run slower up front for the warm-up, then to reach 8:35/mile overall would require I run faster than 8:35/mile in middle and tail end of the Marathon pace runs.  Thus I would have to run 8:15s, 8:20s, etc.  These paces are pretty close to the 7:48-8:09/mile pace I am seeking for Tempo runs. 

And given the 8:15s and 8:20s are being done at the middle and tail end of the run (ten milers included), then stringing together 7:48-8:09s toward the beginning of the tempo run (mile 3-6) during week four should be a strong possibility.  I am thinking next week I should be able to string together 4 mile tempo portion of run at 7:58/miles.  That is what I plan to go for.  I will see if this strategy was a good idea.

Tuesday saw mile 6 done at 8:03/mile.  Thursday saw mile 2, 3, and 6 done at 8:10/mile, 8:17/mile and 8:17/mile.  Friday saw mile 3-5 done at 8:16/mile, 8:16 mile and 8:21/mile.  Saturday had mile 5-8 done at 8:21/mile, 8:14/mile, 8:25/mile and 8:29 mile averaging 8:22/mile overall for those four miles.  Sunday saw mile 6-10 done at 8:24/mile, 8:23/mile, 8:18/mile, 8:19/mile and 8:08 mile. 

All of these miles are very close to the goal Tempo pace of 7:48-8:09/mile!  And many of the above miles were done late in the run.

Was it a good idea to give up the Recovery Run scheduled for Wednesday and Saturday?  Yes!  One reason: I was putting together the 8:35s at about 82% MHR intensity…and this is only one percent higher than General Aerobic HR intensity range…and the midpoint for Marathon Pace miles.  So not overly intense marathon pace miles.

Reason Two: when I was starting my runs, I believed I was running and my breathing indicated to me that I was running 9:00-9:10/mile pace and 4 miles into the run at times glanced at my watch noticing the avg. pace being 8:45-8:50.  How then given that could I not go for 8:35s???

Why am I running faster?  Well one guess would be…because I am running!  Which is to say I am running MORE.  And MORE CONSISTENTLY.  AND MORE INTENSLY.  And yet I have no particular race goals in mind at this time.  There is one goal…to run my training miles at the paces a VDOT of 42 or better dictates…and to have these miles be at the appropriate heart rate intensities.  In other words – to have the VDOT be 42 or better.

Also: the cooler weather.  To me, much better than running in the heat. 

Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 19:24:22 from 24.2.76.146

I like your methodical approach to running.

Are you training according to Jack Daniels formula?

From PRE on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 23:13:55 from 99.50.213.11

ACorn,

Hello. I don't know much about the Jack Daniels formula. I am familiar with the VDOT scores. My Half Marathon PR is two years old and that result gave me a VDOT score of 42.

I am familiar with Pete Pfitzinger and his book "Advanced Marathoning." I learned about 8 types of runs and the appropriate HR intensities associated with those runs through reading that book.

Also McMillan. I am familiar with him. I entered my 1:41:00 (20K) race result into the McMillan Calculator and arrived at what my training paces should be for the various types of runs (some of which are outlined in the above blog entry). And that 20K result by the way is also a 20K PR from a couple years ago.

So my primary goal is to run at VDOT 42 training pace intensities...and then to run a race that would result in a VDOT score of 42 or better.

From ACorn on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 23:44:47 from 24.2.76.146

Thanks for the response.

I have been reading Jack Daniels book called Daniels' Running Formula and he uses the VDot score quite a bit.

I realized while studying the VDot and pace charts that I was running most of my training runs at the pace he recommended without even knowing it. Pretty cool.

Keep up the great work!

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