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Hamden,CT,

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Oct 03, 2010

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Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

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Short-Term Running Goals:

PR for All Race distances - simple enough - right?

Improve VDOT from 42 and get to 43 as proven by Race Result(s) or Time Trial(s).

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Qualify for Boston Marathon

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.520.002.500.005.02

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/141182699

507D009 Q (5.02 miles total : 2.5 miles threshold, 2.52 Easy)

(20 minutes Easy, 20 minutes threshold, 20 minutes Easy scheduled.)

State street route done at 4:46pm for 5.02 miles at 9:01/mile in 45:20.

The tempo portion at mile 3-5.5 was not put together at 8:05/mile.

I did mile 3 at 8:19/mile and mile 4 at 8:40/mile.  At mile 5.5 I hit the lap key but it did not start a new lap.  I figure I ran 8:30s for the tempo portion when they should have been run at 8:05. 

What I am seeing…the 800 meters are difficult to put together at 3:40 with 3:00 recovery and the short tempo runs (20 minutes at 8:05/mile) are also difficult to put together.  But I suspect I can do Long tempo runs with no problem as I have done this frequently in the recent past (put together ten milers @ 8:35/mile for example).  I believe I get faster as I tack miles on to the run!  I am wondering if I can put together the 8:05 miles 6 or 7 miles into the run as opposed to 2 miles into the run.  Is it possible that I have a way too slow warm-up period???

 

I may consider substituting Long tempo runs in place of VO2M interval workouts and short tempo runs.  How frequently I do this is unknown at this time.  Not to sure if it is a wise practice…but from what I have read, the tempo runs are of more importance when it comes to marathon training.  I need to think about this a bit further.  But, for now, Daniels does have a formula in place for identifying the correct pace to run for long tempo runs (VDOT 41: Tempo run is 8:36/mile for 80 minutes or 8:05/mile for 20 minutes as an example). 

And I kind of like going even pace for the most part throughout a run.  Yet…switching up is good too…Thinking through this as I type folks…excuse the above.

Split

Time

Distance

Elevation Gain

Elevation Loss

Avg Pace

1

0:09:25

1

0

83

9:25

2

0:09:28

1

8

9

9:28

3

0:08:19

1

13

19

8:19

4

0:08:40

1

30

13

8:40

5

0:09:15

1

17

17

9:15

6

:13.3

0.02

0

0

9:31

 Summary

0:45:20

5.02

68

140

9:02

Comments
From ACorn on Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 03:27:46 from 24.2.76.146

I agree with your thoughts. I think the tempo runs would be far more beneficial than VO2 max intervals for marathon training. If you decide to go after some 5ks and 10ks I would say the VO2s are a must.

Solid workout, interesting that you may indeed get stronger the longer you run. I wish that was the case with me.

From PRE on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 19:22:58 from 99.50.213.11

Acorn,

Thanks for those remarks. There is no doubt I get stronger as I tack the miles on. However...that improved running does not last for the 26.2 distance unfortunately.

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